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Poster: grendelschoice Date: Sep 16, 2008 8:35am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Hold the phone: over-dubbing question

wow--didn't know that about w/out a net....makes sense, though...and I'm glad they did it at least for that killer version of EYES w/Branford...it'd be a shame for that version to be given anything less than a stellar rendering inc. with vocals.

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Poster: secret8476 Date: Sep 16, 2008 8:50am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Hold the phone: over-dubbing question

When i first started listening to the band, Europe 72 was one of my first albums. Until I got interested enough to really get into the music and read the inlays and stuff, I thought it was a studio album. Call me a newb at the time but the album was so incerdibly crisp and unflawed- every song sounding like it should - just seemed too good to be live.

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Poster: HuaHinWharfRat Date: Sep 16, 2008 10:02am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Hold the phone: over-dubbing question

Not sure about this string - maybe just a case of ugly rumours (not to be read backwards!). Have had Europe '72 for more years than I care to admit (err, since it was released) and I know it off by heart, note by note. I was listening to one of the french concerts recently (either Olympia theatre or Lille Fairgrounds) and spotted one or two tracks that were used from that source for Europe '72 (sorry, can't remember which and I'm not able to double check at this moment). But I will swear on my kids lives' that the songs were put on Europe '72 UNTOUCHED - either that or they over-dubbed the soundboards on this site to match as well and that is extremely unlikely. Maybe some feedback howls & similar have been edited out - but not sure about over-dubs. They were so good, they didn't need to pull stunts like that .....

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Poster: fenario80 Date: Sep 16, 2008 10:17am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Hold the phone: over-dubbing question

This is pretty well documented, at least in the case of Europe '72 they sweetened a lot of vocals; perhaps not on the particular tracks you're referencing, but most of the songs on the first three sides have been doctored quite a bit.

It's cited in the wiki, but not sourced:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Europe_'72

This post was modified by fenario80 on 2008-09-16 17:17:56

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Poster: William Tell Date: Sep 16, 2008 10:26am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Hold the phone: over-dubbing question

Right; from day one when it came out in the Bay Area as a kid, everyone talked about it, it was mentioned on the radio, etc., etc., etc.; so, it always seemed absolutely clear that it had been done on Eur 72 though I can't recall that I have read anything "official" (ie, from one of the band, or an insider...ANYONE else have some more significant to cite for a reference?).

But, this was NOT the case for S&R 71. I will admit we all thought the vocals were as good as it gets, but figured they were the examples that the boys picked to insure they had the best possible sound...

Sorta lays to rest the whole debate about live vs studio on the vocal department...

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